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Originally Posted by Cleo
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Originally Posted by Corey
Thought I would post the new comparison of the Plant hardiness index to show the changes in climate thus far.
Another reason for doing this is to make aware to people why plants are dieing or looking sick around them. this change is the main reason next to pollution.
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Yes, I have seen this and certainly agree with you & the maps. What I have a problem with is the repeated use of the "dead and sick" approach. It defeats the purpose of positive change and makes it sound as if we are walking amongst the withered and dead. This is certainly not the case. Species (human included) will surely change as a result of the climate crisis. Where one type of tree may leave our area, another will surely replace it. While one type of upright and sometimes thinking higher life form may disappear, something will surely replace that too. Point being, we need to have productive conversation today about tangible things that we can do to make a difference for our future, whatever that may be. Or maybe I'm missing the point of this forum?
BTW: If you aren't familiar with the work of Dr. Lee Frelich, it's worth a read. Articles may be found here and here.
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The thing is time that is involved. A new full grown tree takes at least 25 years or more to grow. While the Dieing or sick is within 2 years or less.
Also when a tree dies where is the new tree going to come from? remember animals and insects were the primary means for trees to transplant great distances. and the dead tree can't provide any new seeds. I know this is a bit simplified just trying to keep it simple for others who are not really familiar with forest function and regeneration.
in regards to trees if we plant a new tree every time one matured tree died it would be 25 years before the new tree took its place that is if the new tree doesn't get sick and die itself.
I know the forest is changing problem is humans don't want it to change so we are killing the invasive species to prevent the change. like killing
box-elders in Minnesota.
It isn't the climate crisis itself that is the nail its the human factors that is the nail.
Keep in mind I never said "all" plants I just said "the dieing and sick looking ones" for it is different for everybody depending on where they live.
What we see now is the beginning of the change or its been changing its just getting faster to the point the change is happening faster than the new plants can replace the dieing ones.
Other reason for posting the link I did was so that at least people In the USA would understand why there plants are looking sick or dieing and hint to them they may need to pick plants not native to the particular area.
This will also help them be better informed about buying plants from nurseries and help them be better prepared to avoid scams of buying plants that won't survive. Due to climate change.
I brought up the whole plant issue due to what was being exchanged in another forum and figured it was important here as well in order to help us make the right decisions to create positive change.
Just because its bad news doesn't necessarily make it negative. Especially when share to make awareness of changes that may harm if we are caught unaware.
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