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Originally Posted by founder
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Originally Posted by Corey
First and foremost Company needs to prove beyond a doubt that there solar panels will generate more energy than what it took to make them to begin with
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That's complete impossible!
There will be always some people believing earth is flat
and that the production of photovoltaic needs more energy than the photovoltaic will produce. |
Then it is not green. The requirement for alternative energy to be green is that the total Co2 + equivalent is reduced below what it would be if the energy was generated by fossil fuels. This is the whole purpose of alternatives
So if more energy and resources that goes into making solar or wind towers exceeds the energy return over the life of the solar or wind generation then You actually polluted more co2+ equivalent thus defeated the purpose of switching to alternatives.
It is not completely impossible for a company to prove if a product will preform as advertised. That is why they test it before market.
The problem derives from the company falsifying, over-hype, and withhold problems encountered while testing, in order to get product to market before it is actually ready. Thus why so much junk bought to day falls apart in 6 months or less because of the blue comment.
Back when I was a kid they actually had to prove it worked before they could sell it.
Only ones that say its impossible to prove there product is good are those who are greedy and do not care about anything else other than there pocket book.
the energy and resources used to build solar = X
energy returned form solar over life time = Y
X<Y this is green for you have reduced the Co2+ equivalent bellow the level
that would have been generated by using fossil fuels for the same
duration of time as the life of the solar.
X>Y Not green and Does more damage than what we do now.
Not impossible They can go based on solar already in place and what they generate this can give you a long term hint of how much energy gets produced over time.
then you figure how much energy the new solar design generates and compare it to the old one over a short duration to get the energy ration difference between the two solar designs.
Using these two short term ratios and comparing it with the long term real world test of the old design you can figure out how much energy the new design would generate over the same time frame.
It is not impossible to figure out how much energy and resources that went into making a solar panel. It just takes some information gathering by the companies and adding it together.
They don't want too for if they did and it showed it consumes more energy to make than you get in return then it is not more energy efficient or environmentally sound than burning coal dirrectly.
If people found this to be the case they would not buy the defective product now would they?
Companies would loose all the money and profit they invested thus they lie to make the money or else they go under. So they gamble that we will buy their product not looking into it thoroughly enough and we the consumer get stuck with a product that we hoped would have been environmentally friendly and thus have done more damage than good.
By no means am I say don't pursue solar and wind. Just be damn sure it is proved to work to the level the company claims before investing in it. Look into it deeper than what the company tells you. They will over-hype everything if they are profit driven company.
If the company is honest they will let you go through there testing site to see it with your own eyes it in action and to let you view the numbers on the test equipment on your own.
This is part of taking responsibility for your own action.
I am not saying the earth is flat, I am saying do what Columbus did test it to find out that it round by testing it your self or find someone else who has done it.
If you think it is impossible for a company to prove that there product performs as specified
(which includes the energy and resources it took to make it compared to the energy in return that you will get over the life of the solar) then explain to me why it is impossible. Don't just say it is "impossible" without supporting your claim.
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