Peak oil to trump climate change?

[Johnny Electriglide]

Yes, there is certainly a lot that COULD be done and isn't or hasn't been done. Much has been known since the late 1960s and early 1970s. Much more was known by the early 1990s. I began printing up posters in Seattle in 1993 which showed overpopulation as a root to a tree with branches as numerous problems. I had done the math, and also the psychology, and put on it "A NEW MORALITY MUST BE IN PLACE BY 2000". Didn't happen, although there are many like us, it is not enough to overcome the basic inertia of humanity on a global scale.

[Patrick]

I guess my only hope then is to pray for an economic depression severe enough to significantly cut emissions/resource consumption. If we could return to the standard of living that people had during WWII war time rationing, than everyone would have their basic needs met while greatly reducing our impact. Many of the poor people in England actually were better off during the war, as everyone was guaranteed a ration due to the need to mobilize the entire workforce. It is strange that we would reduce our consumption to fight a war, but in the face of impending climate change which would result in even greater destruction, we sit and do nothing. Maybe we just need to go to war with Iran, then we would have to ration (they have the third largest standing army in the world). It's like Americans will only make sacrifices in wartime. Maybe we could just invent a war, like in Wag the Dog. Peace.

[Johnny Electriglide]

Unless we can transition to the steady state economy of Herman Daly, a depression four times worse than the 1930s is predicted, worldwide, for ten times as long. Economic effects are the first from overpopulation, which lead to the migrations we have seen for the past 25 years, increasing. Peak oil will certainly help bring on the abject poverty and suffering. 20 years until then sounds about right, but it could start much sooner. Reduction in burning will decrease the 10 to 20% dimming of particulates, increasing the apparent effects of GW. Decrease in incomes will decrease taxes, and programs like the reported Shield, or Albedo, Project will also become unaffordable even as they become more necessary, and the jet fuel runs out. For more visit:
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