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Originally Posted by Corey
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Originally Posted by Shenandoah
Corey
Your post is one of opinion with no quantitative backup or references. This doesn't give me any basis for reply.
Paul
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which points do you want links for? I will get them and back it up.
Many of these points are being pointed out by some of the lead research on the Issue in the USA
One of them I from Minnesota where I am from. Some of the points I made were from him.
No, it is not opinion for a good chunk of the points I used. |
There is a big difference between what one can conceive might happen and what will really happen if we use our ability to deal with problems. Let us take your water pollution example. All of the wastes from bio fuel plants are readily biodegradable-as are the fuels themselves-and the manufacturing facilities are required to recycle and treat all wastes before discharge. Could you give me real examples of continuing water pollution coming from biofuel plants? Would you compare this with the pollution from oil spills, tetraethyl lead poisoning through the 70’s, and MTBE contamination of groundwater (which lead to recently replacing it with ethanol)
Saying that gasoline is less expensive than biofuels when total costs are considered also requires documentation The cost in fossil energy to obtain 1MM BTU’s of ethanol compared to 1MM BTU’s of gasoline was finally resolved by a comprehensive study by DOE two years ago. At current technology levels the results were:
Ethanol 700,000 BTU’s
Gasoline 1,300,000 BTU’s
Here is the reference summary of that study.
http://www.ethanolrfa.org/objects/do...of_Argonne.pdf
Add the tremendous costs of exploration, drilling and recovery in the ocean or artic, the military protection required and strategic disadvantages of the foreign sources and the true gasoline price is out of sight,
I would also appreciate some references for the rain forests being destroyed for bio-fuels-I suspect it is more for food and other products but I may be wrong.
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