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Old 24-07-2007, 09:56 AM
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Question Where does your involment come from ?

Hi !

I was wondering, while thinking about my own engagement, what can make people aware of the environmental emergency.

As for me, I remenber what triggered off my awareness : a TV show 4 years ago (better late than never ... ), which scared me a lot about the future ...

I would like to know when your involment in environment began, and what was the release ? Was it a TV show, or a book, or someone who convinced you ? Did you immediately agree, or were you sceptical at first ?

Maybe knowing what brought us to feel concerned about the issue can help to understand how we can convert people ... Because there is still a lot to do ...

Thanks for your answers, (and forgive my english mistakes ... I know they're numerous !!)

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Old 24-07-2007, 02:48 PM
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School in elementary teaching the need to conserve resources and depletion of those resources.

82-86 some time there in. Been in conservation for most of my life and become hard core about February after hearing about the CCD honey bee die off. Also because of the Ultra short Winter and other freaky weather.
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We grew up with all the information pretty much in our face all of the time - so much so that many of our peers either became suicidal or depressed at all of the bad news - we think most people in our demographic and Generation X all got nothing but the bad news of our "unavoidable extinction" while growing up - at least that is how it sounded coming from the multiple sources blasting the statistics our way through media. What we did not really see or hear about was any hopeful solutions or inspirational examples of living in a sustainable way.

We are are hoping to change all of that though through our project....

Maybe the next generation will get to avoid a few ulcers or antidepressants if we start making it a point to point in the right direction - not worry so much about reducing our footprint as leaving footprints that lead toward solutions...

Motivation from fear never has long term positive results right?

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...is a town in arctic Russia with a nickel smelter. The resulting acid rain has decimated the tundra for miles around. The devastation is indescribable.

While I'd always greenish, it was witnessing this destruction 11 years ago that made me want to do something practical and positive (rather than finger pointing and protest). I came home, started volunteering with BTCV, then got a job at Newcastle Uni on Eco-Design, then was appointed Centre Manager at the Clean Environment Management Centre (CLEMANCE) and two years ago, set up my own business.

What I love about this is I learn something new EVERY day - and sometimes a lot of stuff!
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My involvement began when I chose mammal populations as a subject for my Advanced Biology Dissertation. This was 1967. I noticed that the human population curve was exactly like the mammal stimulated population crash curve in the early stages of what is now called overshoot. I completed the curve and came up with a human population crash at mid century, crossing the millennium at 6 billion, with a period of 2030 to 2080, and length of one decade for 90% of the crash to occur. I also noted that this coincidentally was the estimated time when oil depletion would occur, and put in that it could act as a trigger or a coup de grace. My Biology Professor was astounded, but came into agreement. The next year is when Dr. Ehrlich's "Population Bomb" came out. In reading it, I agreed with most but was very surprised that he simply completed the hyperbolic curve mathematically without consulting actual mammal population curves as I had. There is much more complexity that I found over the years, than simply using math that is in error. It spoiled the barrel of apples and nothing was done in the time allotted. I could not change the way people are, their religious beliefs, cultural mores, or their average relatively low intelligence. I discovered that sustainability itself was going down with depletion and pollution, thinking in long term, in a semi-mirror image, delayed.
Environmentalists tended to shy away from the awful reality and go for "pruning the branches", rather than the root cause of human over-breeding. I joined with others in Negative Population Growth, with the motto "Whatever your cause, it is a lost cause, unless we come to grips with overpopulation". All I could do is write to various people and report as new data came in. Global climate change to malevolent and the extinction of species was not looked at, at first. It wasn't until Leakey's "The Sixth Extinction" that the possibility of an ELE in geologic terms, caused by people, was put forth.
After I had realized that nothing would be done in time (1 child per family, moderately enforced worldwide by 1998-2000), I put efforts in the survival of intelligent, strong, remote independent and well defended enclaves.
To walk the talk, I had only one child at 39, built a totally solar house and Earthship all trades myself with family help. However, nowhere near enough people have followed suit, again in the allotted time to stop the ELE. Remote Earthship Villages, if they survive attacks, will still be at the mercy of a malevolent climate, or a nuclear winter type scenario. The survival of support ecosystems is in grave doubt. Even though humans made it through long ice ages, the survival through the extreme depletion and pollution is very slim.
It has been said that instead of so much talk of reducing footprint, to make footprints in progress toward a solution, or a variety of solutions. Where were you back in the 1970s or even 80s?. The horrible thing is that now, any delay from half assed measures actually decreases the chances for those survivors whose chances are so slim. Because of the acceleration of decrease in sustainability, the sooner die-off happens the better. The chances for our species and more not going extinct is better. The best thing to do for future humanity is to kill off the over-breeders who can not live or understand sustainability, and are incapable of seeing the consequences of their ways seven generations into the future. Those so selfish and greedy, and stupid, should be the ones to go, if humanity is to have a chance to survive and become sustainable in the very long term.
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Mine started as a kid. My uncle got me a subscription to Ranger Rick magazine for Christmas one year, and kept renewing it year after year. Just learning about animals and nature at a young age kept me interested throughout the rest of my life.

I always hoped I could get my nephews and my friends' kids involved in the same way, but they never seemed to enjoy RR the way I did!
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