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Old 29-05-2008, 08:52 PM
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BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | China 'now top carbon polluter'

Well We CAN NOT blame it entirely on china After all we Consume so much import from china which is actually part of our own footprint.

If we want to reduce china pollution WE MUST STOP BUYING CHINA PRODUCTS.

Why do I get the feeling this is going to end in a nuclear war, in order to reduce the population and increases in consumption..................


Man I really hate mega corporations, which outsource to the cheapest labor!
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This article from a few weeks ago summarizes some interesting views and perspectives on the possible global effects of these trends: Asia Times Online :: Asian news and current affairs

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This new world order will be characterized by fierce international competition for dwindling stocks of oil, natural gas, coal and uranium, as well as by a tidal shift in power and wealth from energy-deficit states like China, Japan and the United States to energy-surplus states like Russia, Saudi Arabia and Venezuela. In the process, the lives of everyone will be affected in one way or another - with poor and middle-class consumers in the energy-deficit states experiencing the harshest effects…Here, in a nutshell, are five key forces in this new world order which will change our planet:

• Intense competition between older and newer economic powers for available supplies of energy.
• The insufficiency of primary energy supplies.
• The painfully slow development of energy alternatives.
• A steady migration of power and wealth from energy-deficit to energy-surplus nations:
• A growing risk of conflict.


Pretty much another way of covering the same ground as Corey … but without the call for a boycott!!

Related report from China (so, its not BBC bias! ): RTÉ News China

Unfortunately, some elements in China may also be the #1 spammer as well, at least in so far as the automated spam-bots that have been an increasing trend on some message boards. . Somehow they now manage to by-pass the registration security features like the distorted characters that we are asked to insert. . I suppose that trend of spam-bots is in some ways related to both “outsourcing” and “pollution” – the people offering the dubious products and services often seem to be from countries other than the spammers' IP addresses, and further to this, the multiple posting (by the spam-bots) of meaningless and irrelevant threads and replies on other people’s legitimate boards can probably be considered as pollution of forums!!!

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China's CO2 Emissions Staged to Get Even Worse

From a study published in August 2007: Forecasting the Path of China's CO2 Emissions Using Province Level Information by Maximilian Auffhammer & Richard T. Carson

ABSTRACT: Our results suggest that the anticipated path of China's Carbon Dioxide (CO2) emissions has dramatically increased over the last five years. The magnitude of the projected increase in Chinese emissions out to 2015 is several times larger than reductions embodied in the Kyoto Protocol. Our estimates are based on a unique provincial level panel data set from the Chinese Environmental Protection Agency. This dataset contains considerably more information relevant to the path of likely Chinese greenhouse gas emissions than national level time series models currently in use. Model selection criteria clearly reject the popular static environmental Kuznets curve specification in favor of a class of dynamic models with spatial dependence.

Article Link: Ecological Economics: China's CO2 Emissions Staged to Get Even Worse
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The International Herald Tribune, June 14, 2008

A new study has provided clear evidence that China has now overtaken the United States as the world's leading emitter of greenhouse gases. The increasing emissions from China - up 8% in the past year - accounted for two-thirds of the growth in global greenhouse gas emissions in 2007, the study found. The report, released Friday by the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency, is an annual study. Last year, for the first time, the researchers found that China had edged ahead of the United States as the world's leading emitter.

But the results were not so clear-cut as those released Friday, and many experts were skeptical of last year's finding. The International Energy Agency continued to say only that China was projected to overtake the United States by the end of 2007. ''The difference had grown to a 14% difference, and that's indeed quite large,'' said Jos Olivier, a senior scientist at the Dutch agency. ''It's now so large that it's quite a robust conclusion.'' Worse, China's emissions are likely to continue growing substantially for years to come because they are tied to the country's strong economic growth and its particular mix of industry and power sources, the researchers said.

China, like the United States, is heavily dependent on coal for its energy, and it has seen its most rapid growth in some of the world's most polluting industrial sectors, like cement, aluminum and plate glass. Twenty percent of China's emissions come from its cement kilns, which are essential for the country's construction boom and likely to be working overtime this year as the country prepares for the Olympics and rebuilds after a devastating earthquake. That being said, the United States has clearly maintained its lead in carbon dioxide emissions per person. The average American is responsible for 19.4 tons, followed by Russia at 11.8 tons, Western Europe at 8.6 tons, China at 5.1 tons and India at 1.8 tons.

Experts said the new data underscored the importance of getting China to sign on to any new global climate agreement. Neither China nor the United States participated in the current treaty to limit emissions, the Kyoto Protocol, which expires in 2012. It will be replaced by a new agreement to be signed in Copenhagen at the end of 2009. In Bonn on Friday, 2,000 world leaders concluded two weeks of negotiations on what kind of agreement should replace Kyoto. They claimed modest progress but reached no conclusions, according to The Associated Press, which quoted participants as saying not enough ideas were put on the table. United Nations leaders told them to ''pick up the pace.'' ''With a little more than a year to go to Copenhagen, the challenge to come to that agreement remains daunting,'' said Yvo de Boer, executive secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change.

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