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19-07-2007, 02:43 PM
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Hi From Paris ... !
Hi everyone !
As the title says, I'm frome Paris ... therefore I beg you to excuse the mistakes I will certainly do in my messages ... (and, please, if you see terrible mistakes, let me know about them !!!)
So, I'm french, I'm 22 and I'm still a student (I study mathematics).
This is the first time I register in a forum, so ... what is it that makes me wanted to join the forum ? Well, I'm not going to be original, the environmental issue is very important for me, and meeting people who share my point of view seemed very attractive !
Looking forward to read from you in the forum ...
Charlotte
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19-07-2007, 02:55 PM
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Welcome to the forum Charlotte. I think you have come to the right place to discuss environmental topics!
See you around.
Fabian
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19-07-2007, 05:33 PM
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Welcome .
Diversity in thoughts and walks of life are important too. Give you different perspectives to the world you may not have realized that exist.
:peace:
I am glad to see folks younger than I taking an interest in preserving their own future. Especially considering the fact the seniors(older folks) are doing a piss poor job of managing our resources and earth.
PS I am one of the older folks age. 33
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We can talk till we are blue in the face, The real impact of change is when we take action based on information we have talked about. So lets do more action to create change.
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20-07-2007, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Corey
Diversity in thoughts and walks of life are important too. Give you different perspectives to the world you may not have realized that exist.
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You're right !! But, given that concerning environment, I have to deal with a lot of people who doesn't share my point of view, I want to meet people who do ... just to have the feeling that they do exist !!!
Charlotte
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20-07-2007, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenCharlotte
Hi everyone !
As the title says, I'm frome Paris ... therefore I beg you to excuse the mistakes I will certainly do in my messages ... (and, please, if you see terrible mistakes, let me know about them !!!)
So, I'm french, I'm 22 and I'm still a student (I study mathematics).
Charlotte
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Since You are just at the univiersity, I would suggest as a first action to persuade all students using 50ccm gasoline scooters to change to electric scooters.
To have at the university the possibility to recharge electric scooters.
This is not one of the usual "We could do if we would...", that's something real, for immedeate actions.
I just make a long time test of an E-Max S electric scooter.
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20-07-2007, 10:39 AM
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Seems like a good idea ... !
But (un)fortunately, there is an underground station just in front of the university, and a lot of places to park a bike, so most of the student come by tube or bike, or feet ... So maybe it won't look like an opportunity to make money ...
So :
- First I stop being a pessismistic, and then
- Two, I talk about the electric scooters to environmental organizations of my university ...
I'll let you know about the project !
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"Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realise we cannot eat money... " - Indian Proverb -
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20-07-2007, 11:32 AM
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France contributions for a sustainable future
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Originally Posted by GreenCharlotte
Seems like a good idea ... !
But (un)fortunately, there is an underground station just in front of the university, and a lot of places to park a bike, so most of the student come by tube or bike, or feet ... So maybe it won't look like an opportunity to make money ...
So :
- First I stop being a pessismistic, and then
- Two, I talk about the electric scooters to environmental organizations of my university ...
I'll let you know about the project !
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BTW, French did much for electric mobility.
The first generation of electric vehicles from 1991 is still driven by enthusiasts from solar energy organisations.
Electric car Peugeot 106 Electric
Peugeot made also the first good electric scooter, but had a bad relapse
Peugeot farwell from the future
The current best Plug-in-Hybrid car comes from Renault
Renault Kangoo Plug-in-Hybrid car
I have read in the news, that the french post has purchased 10.000 units for post delivery.
Could You look for every post car You see and find out, is it electric or not?
I have in Austria asked many postman. They use here for delivery usual VW Caddy using 10..13 litere diesel for 100km.
The new hybrid drive system is just right now in the Kangoo and Scenic,
but only for big organisations to test.
Hybrid engine for Renault Kangoo
This makes the Renault Scenic a dream car for me. For example, my family likes on hot days like this to go bathing at the Chiemsee 51 km from my home.
I just thought yesterday, with a plus energy house
Row house to the electric power production
the roof of the house would generate all the electric power for this 102 km car driving on a sunny day in just 2 hours.
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20-07-2007, 12:55 PM
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[quote=founder;1792
Could You look for every post car You see and find out, is it electric or not?
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Ok !!!
Concerning Peugeot, it's true that they act a lot in favor of environment.
They invented the "Stop and go" system : when you stop your car (e.g. at a trafic light) the engine goes off. This system allows you to save 3 to 5% of gasoline (and so reduces CO2 emissions).
They also set up a pilot carbon sequestration experiment in Amazonia : tha aim is to reforest and create a carbon sink (I visited an exhibition at the science museum of Paris - "La Cité des Sciences et de l'Industrie" - and I was enjoyed !)
They also created a filter of particles (I'm sorry, I don't know the english word ... so my tranlation may be approximate), which prevents dangerous particles to be rejected in the atmosphere.
But they kind of dissapointed me, because they yielded to SUV temptation ... I'd have loved it, if they had tried to keep a "green" image, and refused to construct SUV ...
I guess I'm a little naive ...
Charlotte
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20-07-2007, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenCharlotte
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Originally Posted by Corey
Diversity in thoughts and walks of life are important too. Give you different perspectives to the world you may not have realized that exist.
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You're right !! But, given that concerning environment, I have to deal with a lot of people who doesn't share my point of view, I want to meet people who do ... just to have the feeling that they do exist !!!
Charlotte
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Agree, For myself I feel alone in the struggle here in the USA, due to the lack of contacts with people who do care and will Accept me for my diverse views that do not fit the norm. Which is also the reason for my being here as you are.
:peace:<rockon>
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We can talk till we are blue in the face, The real impact of change is when we take action based on information we have talked about. So lets do more action to create change.
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20-07-2007, 03:37 PM
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[quote=GreenCharlotte;1796]
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Originally Posted by founder;1792
Could You look for every post car You see and find out, is it electric or not?
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Ok !!!
Concerning Peugeot, it's true that they act a lot in favor of environment.
They invented the "Stop and go" system : when you stop your car (e.g. at a trafic light) the engine goes off. This system allows you to save 3 to 5% of gasoline (and so reduces CO2 emissions).
They also set up a pilot carbon sequestration experiment in Amazonia : tha aim is to reforest and create a carbon sink (I visited an exhibition at the science museum of Paris - "La Cité des Sciences et de l'Industrie" - and I was enjoyed !)
They also created a filter of particles (I'm sorry, I don't know the English word ... so my translation may be approximate), which prevents dangerous particles to be rejected in the atmosphere.
But they kind of disappointed me, because they yielded to SUV temptation ... I'd have loved it, if they had tried to keep a "green" image, and refused to construct SUV ...
I guess I'm a little naive ...
Charlotte
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"sequestration" After you put in the link it changed it to the sentence form thus has the word you were looking for  Doing fine I am understanding you completely.
Your second to last point about SUV Actually what you just witnessed was "green washing" They do tree project only to keep business as usual or to redirect the public away from the fact they continue to create things highly damaging to the environment.
Even toyota, "Green washes" with the Prius. They tout about how efficient the Prius is and how popular it is among the Green cars. This is to redirect people away from the fact that Toyota continues to make the big 4x4 which is the most popular in the Toyota line up! (4x4 sales > Prius sales by how much, I am not sure.)
Ouch I saw a flaw with the experiment right off the back when I saw the first photo on the link you provided.
ITS TOOO CONTROLED!! Trees are protected in the test chamber from all the environmental factors that is going on in the world such as rain, bugs, molds, bacterias, erosion, Ground nutrient levels, Ground nutrient makeup, Human impact on trees (cutting trees for the lumber it provides),Soil dry-out from doubt, Too much rain, mono crop, Controlled UV, floods, animals eating the trees (We had a oak project that kept having the "leader stem" of the tree top eaten off by hungry deer thus they were only 3 ft tall at 20-30 years of age rather that 10-25 ft) Where pollution?, chemicals, effect the "shield project" would have on the plants. Reality is 8 out 0f 10 trees die when planted as yearlings. (I use to plant trees with the DNR Department of Natural Resources among other things. trees planted older is too resource intensive due to the dirt balls around the roots, that is why yearlings is used.)
The reality is that carbon offset using nature as the means of doing it is not practical to many variables goes into it that can't be tested in a lab. The Co2 that is collected by trees is mostly released back in to the atmosphere when it dies either as co2 or methane depending if it dies in a flooded area and is under water or on open ground where it has air to help decompose it. It would take a very long time to lock the Co2 away again that we released by burning Fossil fuels and such. So Due to this reality of the situation we need to cut our use of burning fossil based fuels and cut our excessive consumption ,, as well as reduce our population ASAP.
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We can talk till we are blue in the face, The real impact of change is when we take action based on information we have talked about. So lets do more action to create change.
Last edited by Corey; 20-07-2007 at 04:01 PM.
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